Minutes of the CALICE-UK Steering Board Meeting, Manchester, 02/11/06 ===================================================================== Present: Dave Bailey (for part), Roger Barlow (for part), Paul Dauncey, Mark Thomson, David Ward (for part), Nigel Watson, Matthew Wing Apologies: Mike Green Minutes: Paul Minutes of last meeting (phone, 05/05/06): No corrections. For matters arising, Mark and Nigel have not yet made contact with LCFI about UK links with the LDC and GLD groups; Dave has also not yet made contact with SiD. Paul talked to Steve Worm about having an LCFI representative give a talk at our general UK meetings, so as to give a short summary of LCFI work and hence identify possible areas of overlap, particularly in simulation work. Steve seemed enthusiastic about this but Paul had left this too late for the meeting tomorrow. Paul will try to organise such a talk for the next meeting. It would be reasonable to assume they would invite a CALICE-UK person to their meetings also. Paul did not set up a CERN account in the end as Mary Elizabeth Shewry was able to charge the expenses to her general account and then send the charges directly to our RAL account. General news: Paul reported that the CERN beam tests for 2006 finished on Monday. Plans for future beam tests are discussed under the Steering Board item below. A "preproposal" for CALICE (and other) ILC calorimetry work has been submitted in response to the US NSF "PIRE" call. This is a US group including Jae Yu and Dhiman Chakraborty but they have asked for some non-US expressions of interest in collaborating, so Paul and Mark added their names to keep the UK involved. What we commit to will only be defined at the time of the full proposal at the end of Feb; there will be no funding for the non-US groups so this is more an expression of support. We can decide to withdraw before the full proposal if necessary. David reported there will be a general CALICE analysis meeting at DESY in Feb/Mar organised by David, Nigel and Roman Poeschel. This would be several days and allow the analysis status to be discussed in detail. CALICE Steering Board report: Paul and David reported that there had been two meetings in the last six months. Several new groups have joined CALICE; the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre in India will contribute 50 silicon wafers to the ECAL and Kobe and Shinshu Universities in Japan will build a scintillator ECAL. FNAL are still undecided about membership. Casablanca and Madrid have made contact. To improve the effectiveness of the analysis effort, two new posts of Physics and Analysis Coordinators have been created and were filled by Nigel and David, which is a reflection of the strong impact of the UK in CALICE. The target beam test schedule for next year was decided. The ECAL and AHCAL should be completed by May next year, when the CERN beam lines start their 2007 runs. (The TCMT was already completed this year.) The HCAL movable stage should also be complete, allowing angled incidence. We have bid for four more weeks of beam (and two weeks of parasitic muons for calibration) at CERN early in the 2007 period, ideally mid Jun to mid Sep. The detectors will then move to FNAL in Sep and start running there in Oct. When complete, around the end of 2007, the RPC DHCAL will replace the AHCAL and run until around Apr 2008. There will be three CALICE general collaboration meetings next year; the first around May in Japan, the second around Jul in Prague and the third around Oct in FNAL. The one in May will clearly concentrate on preparations for LCWS07 at the end of May. CALICE Technical Board report: Paul and David also reported that there was a Technical Board review of readiness for the beam tests on 15/16 Jun. The main task was defining the beam test programme for CERN. The other important conclusion which is relevant to the UK was that the software was not fully ready to allow analysis rapidly after the data were taken. This was one of the main motivations behind the appointments of the Physics and Analysis Coordinators (see above). CALICE Speakers Bureau report: David reported that CALICE got 10 or 11 talks at Valencia which was considered to be low. This was mainly due to a lack of available speakers. Most of the AHCAL speakers are giving practise talks at DESY today. The UK speakers will give practise talks in our meeting tomorrow. The others are not known, although they should all be released to the CALICE Steering Board tomorrow. Paul asked why they would not be released to the collaboration as a whole; it was due to the late timing, so receiving many comments would be difficult. This should clearly be improved before LCWS07. The UK is giving three CALICE talks (Anne-Marie Magnan, Konstantin Stefanov and Yoshi Mikami) with Mark giving a more general plenary in addition. There is a non ILC-specific instrumentation meeting in Vienna from 19-24 Feb 2007 and David said CALICE may expect 4 or 5 talks. EUDET report: Matthew reported that the EUDET annual meeting had recently been held in Munich and there had been three UK presentations on the DAQ, which was a reasonable number. The hardware development is is good shape but the main issues seem to be in the software. The UK is committed to providing the readout-level software for the calorimeter. The issue is whether this should be expanded to encompass the whole DAQ system, potentially including the tracking and vertex detectors also. This would be a major commitment and it is not clear if the UK has the resources to be able to do this. This task was clearly not part of the PPARC grant and so would need to come from the EUDET new RA effort. Project Manager report: Paul reported for Mike Green. Mike had held the first WP managers meeting before the SB meeting today. Generally the projects are in reasonable shape, although WP3 has identified a call on the working allowance, which was approved by the other WP managers (see below). The next OsC meeting was postponed from Sep as the PPARC secretary repsponsible for our OsC left. It will now happen on 28 Nov and only Paul and Mike will attend. The documentation was sent in for the Sep date and so only a presentation and verbal replies to questions will be needed. Budget/finance status: Paul stated that he and Mike had sent in the estimate for the total FY spend to RAL a few days before. The WPs are mainly in line with expectations, the exception being WP3 for which a previously unexpected spend of 25k is now foreseen. The travel budget is being underspent, with an estimate of 60k compared to the 75k in the budget. Even the 60k may be an overestimate as it assumed short term travel will continue at the same rate, although the beam tests are now complete until the next FY. RAL/EID are charging more for effort than the cost they gave us for the grant; despite several emails over a couple of months, this is still not understood and will be chased up. UK attendence/prominence at Valencia: There are only five CALICE-UK people attending the Valencia meeting next week, of which four are giving talks (see above). Paul raised the question of why there were not more people (and hence talks) particularly from the RAs and PGs. The obvious RAs missing the meeting were George Mavromanolakis and Wenbiao Yan, both of whom have visa issues. Michele Faucci Giannelli could have gone to the meeting but his analysis was not thought to be well enough understood for a public talk. There is no obvious silver bullet to improve this in the future although advertising the meetings as early as possible and making the RAs and PGs volunteer for talks whenever feasible should help. Upcoming meetings, UK attendance: Paul reported that the LCWS07 meeting will be at DESY from 30 May to 5 Jun. Given the usual rotation, as the previous was in Asia (Bangalore), then the following one in 2008 is most likely to be in the US, and probably FNAL. The 2007 CALICE collaboration meetings are listed above. There is also the Vienna conference as mentioned in the Speakers Bureau item above. LCWS07 is likely to be the first major release of quantitative beam test results and so we really should try to get as many UK people to attend and give talks as possible. Given that we know the meeting is coming up well in advance, then people should organise the RAs to keep the meeting period clear. It would probably be very helpful for speakers to also attend the CALICE Japanese collaboration meeting which is just before LCWS07. Workpackage reports: Paul reported for David (who had to leave the meeting) on WP1. The UK hardware and firmware for the beam test performed well and we can hold our heads high. In particular, Matt Warren did an excellent job of being responsive to last minute requests for firmware changes and was crucial to the success. The analysis work has to now start in earnest and the appointment of the Physics and Analysis coordinators will be important for this. The UK work on the beam line geometries has been implemented but needs to be included in a Mokka release to be maximally useful. Matthew reported on WP2. There are five tasks, all UK based and all are effectively on schedule. The main disruption was caused by the UCL RA, Chris Targett-Adams, leaving unexpectedly but he was responsible enough to fully document his code before leaving so the overall impact will probably be quite small. His replacement, Valeria Bartsch, is already in post. Unfortunately, there is no UK DAQ talk at Valencia. For WP3, Paul reported that to obtain a good S/N in the MAPS, it will be necessary to develop a new process step to cut off the signal charge from the readout circuit p-mos transistors. This was not foreseen and will cost around 50k. He hopes RAL will pay half of this as the process would be generally useful for other MAPS designs. Negotiations are still ongoing. Even an extra cost of 25k will require using the working allowance and this will probably become a major topic at the upcoming OsC meeting. Together with other delays in the design, this extra step will mean we will miss the submission deadline for the first MAPS sensor. This will incur a three month delay until the next multi-project run in Apr. This can only really be accomodated by shortening the final beam test. To compensate for this, the first sensors may now also be tested in beam at DESY (or FNAL) towards the end of 2007. There are two MAPS talks at Valencia; this is the first public announcement of the project. Dave reported on WP4. The Manchester people had a useful meeting with the mechanical engineers at LLR this week and are up to date on the latest ideas. The glue studies will continue up to a decision point next year. For the thermal side, Steve Snow has done some modelling showing a temperature difference of around 10C across the slab without active cooling, which is thought acceptable. A full engineering design of the cooling system is needed but Manchester do not have the effort or interest in taking on this major task. The WP4 schedule is being adjusted to align better with EUDET, so there are some small changes to the Gantt charts. In addition, Steve Watts and other members of his Brunel group will move to Manchester in Jan. This could change the emphasis of the work there; is it possible he may become coordinator of the CALICE silicon wafer production, although nothing is firm yet. Nigel reported that WP5 is mainly on schedule. Mark is clearly in a leading role through PandoraPFA and this is reflected by his plenary talk at Valencia. The UK analyses in WW scattering and ZHH production are good channels for benchmarking detectors. The work in Mokka on MAPS must get into a Mokka release to be most useful. It should not hold up the long-awaited 6-02 release but should go into the next one following that. UK interfaces to global detectors and status of the CDRs: Paul asked about the status of the global detector groups and how the UK could make itself more prominent. Specifically, there is a worry that the work done in the UK, on the DAQ but more so on MAPS, could be ignored by the detector groups. Mark reported that there are regular phone meetings and that LDC and GLD are receptive to new ideas. SiD would be much harder to get into given the inflexibility of many of the people involved. As stated above, we have no contact with SiD, which is a significant lack. Dream, the fourth detector concept, is still at a very rudimentary stage and is not considered too seriously yet. Mark also reported that the timescale for the CDRs and costings is not yet settled, although there was a recent deadline for new contributions. IPPP representative: Nigel Glover contacted Paul to ask for a CALICE-UK contact name for the IPPP in Durham; see the email on the meeting web page. This would probably be a low level task to connect people in CALICE to the Durham theorists if there were any issues of mutual interest. It would make sense for this to be someone involved in WP5 and Nigel volunteered to take this on. CALICE-UK meeting organiser: This was to have been Chris Targett-Adams but he has left UCL. Paul said the motivation for this was mainly that he hadn't had time to organise the meetings regularly, hence they have been somewhat sporadic. Dave volunteered himself for this although if there are other people (maybe RAs) who would be responsible and could take this on, they should still be considered. AoB: None. Next meeting(s): The next UK SB meeting will be a phone meeting and is tentatively scheduled for Wed 14 Feb at 14.00. The history for hosting general meetings is UCL 4, Birmingham 3, Manchester 2 and Cambridge 1, so it was thought to be Imperial's turn next. Hence, the next general CALICE-UK meeting will be at Imperial, with the SB meeting on Mon 26 Mar at 16.00 and the general meeting on Tue 27 Mar, starting at 11.00